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| | #REDIRECT [[John James Griffin, Jr.]] |
| |Designation=[[Jon "Turtle" Griffin"]]
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| |RealName=[[John James Griffin Jr.]]
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| |AKA=[[Turtle]], [[Jon]], [[Turtle Jon]],[[ Jack]], [[Jack Davinci]], [[User:jackdavinci]]
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| |Image=turtlejon4m.jpg
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| |4miteStatus=[[Forumite Alumni]]
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| |1st4mDate=[[1987]]
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| |4mCherry=[[Matthew Gray]]
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| |4mReign=[[1992#September|September 1992]]-[[1996#December|December 1996]]
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| |OfficesHeld=[[Secretary]], year unknown
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| |4mFame=[[Sandals]], [[Relationship chart]], [[Hospital roof]], [[Omnipedia]]
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| |LifeDate=[[1974#July|July 18, 1974]]-[[Living]]
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| |BornLocation=[[Port Jefferson, NY]]
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| |BOA=[[GAMYR House]], [[Port Jefferson Station, NY]]
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| |Species=[[Human]], [[turtles|Turtle]]
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| |Gender=[[Male Forumites|Male]]
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| |SexIdent=[[LGBTA Forumites|Gay]], [[LGBTA Forumites|Queer]], [[LGBTA Forumites|Kinsey 5]], [[Forumite relationships|Serial monogamist]]
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| |RelationshipStatus=[[Single Forumites|Single]]
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| |Related=Adoptive parent of [[Bubbles]]
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| |Profession=[[Forumite artists|Graphic designer]], Manager
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| }}
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| |title=[[Secretary]]
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| For uses other than the Forumite "Turtle" see [[turtles]].
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| '''Jon Griffin''', known better as '''Turtle''', is a 32 year old [[Forumite alumni]] living in [[Port Jefferson Station]], NY in what was originally called [[GAMYR House]], with [[Elana]], [[Wendy]], and [[Drew]]. He does [http://www.memesmith.com freelance graphic design], [http://www.shirtsamok.com/mainframe.html sells his own tshirt designs], and manages a [http://www.rooftopstudio.com customized shoe store]. In the past he has also worked in bookstores, for a printer, and at a [http://www.genetargeting.com genetics laboratory]. He sees a lot of movies and watches a lot of Tivo with his best friend, [[Brian Bland|Brian]]. He's a little bit addicted to [[http://www.wikipedia.org Wikipedia]] and [http://www.lostpedia.com Lostpedia.] He likes science fiction, [[turtles]], biking, [[bungy jumping]], [[sky diving]], metaphysics, [[I-Con]], [[folk festivals]], [[acting]], [[Burning Man]], graphic design, science, swimming, places and people which are non-smoking, [[LITMA|contra dancing]], stealing hats, and his Macintosh computer.
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| =AKA=
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| Born '''John James Griffin Jr''', his existence was already ironic due to being a junior to a father born with a different name (John Sanchez). In [[Eal L Vandermeulen High School|High School]], due partly to reasons of aesthetics and partly in deference to his [[Latin]] teacher's declaration that "H is nothing" he started writing his first name as '''Jon'''. His first year in [[the Forum]], there were so many "[[John]]"s that each of us developed designations to differentiate us. My association with turtle had become known as so [[Aakin]] started calling me '''Turtle John'''. Eventually this got shortened to just '''Turtle'''. He, [[Squirrel]], and [[Ferret]] became known as the "[[small woodland creatures]]" for their resemblance to an item on the [[scavenger hunt]]. Near the end of college he also came to be known as '''Jack''' and '''Jack Davinci''' for his stage/writing name - Jack as a nickname for Jon, and Davinci for one of his idols, Leonardo da Vinci. Other lesser used nicknames he has had include '''[[JJ]]''', '''[[JG]]''', [[[JJG]]''', '''[[Zhay Zhee]]''', '''[[James]]''', '''[[Jimmy]]''', '''[[Johnny]]''', '''[[Johnny Boy]]''', '''[[Jonathan]]''', '''[[Johnny Rockets]]''', '''[[Mr. Jon]]''', '''[[Jonathon]]''', '''[[Nuke]]''', '''[[Nukeyduke]]''', and '''[[Greensilver]]'''. On this wiki his username is '''[[User:jackdavinci]]'''.
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| =Pre Forum history=
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| Turtle was born on [[1974#July|July 18, 1974]] in [[Port Jefferson]], NY to John and Deborah Griffin. His parents separated shortly after he was born and he lived with his mother from then on. They lived in many places including [[Port Jeff]], [[Queens]], [[Florida]], [[Connecticut]], [[Texas]], and [[California]]. They settled back in Port Jefferson and his mom started dating [[Lowel Jones|Lowell]] in time for school. Turtle stayed in Port Jefferson pretty much until graduation, except for [[1984]] when the family stayed half a year in [[Austin, Texas]] and half a year in [[Seaside, Oregon]] with the summer in [[San Francisco, California]].
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| =Forum history=
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| ==Introduction to the Forum==
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| Turtle attended his first [[I-Con]] around [[1987]] with his best friend at the time Matthew. They both volunteered as [[gophers]] and attended volunteer meetings in the [[Central Hall Forum]], popping his [[technical Forumite|technical]] [[Forumite cherry]]. He went to [[Earl L Vandermeulen High School|High School]] with eventual Forumite [[Tracy Scott]], and knew her mother, [[Mary Scott]], a [[Forumite alumni|former Forumite]] herself. Also in High School, he and his friend [[Kevin Chiu]] went to some of the [[Anime Club]] meetings at the [[Forum]].
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| ==1992==
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| In [[1992#September|Fall of 1992]] Turtle became a [[commuter ]]student at [[SUNY Stony Brook]] and a more [[active Forumites|official Forumite]]. He was a bit shy and found the [[Central Hall Forum]] to be a bit chilly and so did not spend a lot of time there. He did hang out with [[Jim Prego|Jim]] and [[Colleen Skadl|Colleen]] occasionally, the latter of who he had some classes with and always seemed to know where she was.
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| ==1993==
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| In [[1993#September|Fall of 1993]] [[Tracy Scott|Tracy]] finally graduated [[Earl L Vandermeulen|High School]] and attended [[USB|Stony Brook]]. Turtle began to hang out with her a lot, and with [[Skip]], both of whom lived in [[Hendrix]] and were in Turtle's chemistry class. He went to an [[LGBA]] meeting with Skip, where they both met [[Walter Forest|Walter]]. Turtle and Skip [[Forumite relationships|dated]] for a couple weeks. Turtle got drawn back into the Forum by Tracy and Skip and by virtue of the fact that it had moved to the warmer location. He became especially good friends with [[Aakin]].
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| ==Relationships==
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| After Skip, he dated Adam for a while, after which he started dating Skip, leading Turtle to create the Forum [[relationship chart]] to diagram the notoriously [[Forum inbreeeding|incestuous]] nature of the Forum and it's many complex relationship patterns such as the [[pentangle]]. Adam introduced Turtle to [[Tobie Pomann|Tobie]], and they started to date. Some time later [[Jim Prego|Jim]] brought down [[Alexis Barrett|Alexis]] and she and Turtle dated. Turtle also had flirtations with [[Erick the Red]], the [[Craig Shieffele|two]] [[Ducky|Craigs]], [[Oz]], and various other [[Forumites]]. He had major non requited crushes on [[Magic John]] and [[Brian Libfeld]] and non-Forumite Ethan. He had things with non-Forumites Jorge and Tony, and a serious cyber-love for Sparrow. He had a fairly serious relationship with technical Forumite [[Alan Spar|Alan]].
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| ==Forum participation==
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| He was known for wearing [[sandals]], some times year round. Sometimes he would retire them on [[Sherman Raftenberg day]], sacrificing them to the [[steam vents]]. He designed a lot of [[posters]] for Forum [[events]] as well as his own take on the Forum [[rocket and sun logo]], which Skip animated for [[main apge|this wiki]]. He went biking with [[Walter]], and when Walter and [[Laurie Forest|Laurie]] moved to [[Pittsfield, Massachusetts]], he spent his 21st summer with them there. They also introduced him to the [[Clearwater]] and [[Falconridge]] [[Folk Festivals]] to which he's also gone with [[Alexis Barrett|Alexis]], [[Ken Lorenz|Ken]], [[Colleen Donnagan|Colleen]], and [[Jim Prego|Jim]]. He helped start the Forum [[relationship charts]]. He went on a few excursions to the [[hospital roof]] including the [[Forum scandals#hospital roof|famous incident]] where we got held for questioning. He went on one trip through the [[steam tunnels]]. Went on a few mind expanding journeys with [[Jim Prego|Jim]] and company including adventures around [[USB|campus]] to the [[bamboo forest]], the [[physics bubble]], the [[physics labyrinth]], and the [[echo spot]]. He was [[secretary]] for a semester.He created the first [[Omnipedia]] of which [[main page|this wiki]] is the next generation. [[Tracy Scott|Tracy]] and he took some Forumites [[contra dancing]]. He participated in most of the Forumite [[extreme sports outings]] including [[skydiving]], [[paragliding]], [[rock climbing]], and [[white water rafting]]. He went on the NYC 5 borough bike ride.
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| ==Friends and Faculty==
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| Other Forumites Turtle has had close [[friendships]] with include [[Tracy]], [[Skip]], [[Jim]], [[Sammy]] and [[Phil]], [[Walter and Laurie]], [[Alexis]], [[Tobie]], [[Adam]], [[Connie]], [[Wendy]], [[Drew]], [[Elana]], [[Aakin]], [[Laura]] and [[Garick]], [[Kate]] and [[John LaSala]], [[JC]], [[Craig]], [[Ducky]], and [[Oz]]. And of course honorary Forumite, his [[turtles|turtle]] [[Bubbles]]. In the [[faculty]] he was close with [[David and Lizzie Saltz|Professor Saltz]] and his wife [[David and Lizzie Saltz|Lizzie]], and enjoyed the antics of the [[women's studies]] professor [[Helen LeMay]] and [[Professor Lauher]] of [[chemistry bondage]] fame.
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| ==Academics==
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| He started out as a biology major but stopped pursuing that after organic chemistry at 8am. He took an [[FLC]] seminar in human reproduction and took all of the [[LTA]] classes learning to use technology in the arts - theater, music, and the visual arts. He became a [[TA]] for the courses and [[lab administrato]]r. As a deep thinker, he also took many [[philosophy]] courses. His last semester, he took his transcript to his advisor and asked him what his major should be. Ended up with a B.A. in [[Multidisciplinary Studies]] with concentrations in Philosophy, Human Reproduction, and Technology in the Arts. Although he finished all his classes and went to [[graduation]], he did not receive his degree due to a technicality and hasn't bothered to go back and fix it.
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| ==Other clubs==
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| Turtle has been involved in [[I-Con]] since [[1997]]. He did the design for the [[Public Sphere]]. He was the PA for [[BeckettSpace]]. He acted in "[[Little Murders]]" and "[[Changing the Sheets]]". He was peripherally involved with [[the Stony Brook press|the Press]]. He worked on the [[literary magazine]]. He was a member of the [[LGBTA|LGBA]]. He helped start [[POWER]]. He was a member of the [[Roth Pond Regatta]] for a time, and has been designing their tshirts for many years.
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| =Post Forum history=
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| After graduating, in [[1997#March|Spring of 1997]] he got a job doing graphic design for a printer in Mineola and moved into the [[GAMYR house]] vacancy left by [[Gerry Garcia|Gerry]]. After a few years he left to do graphic design freelance. In [[1998]] he went to [[Burning Man]]. Around [[1999]] he started working at a genetics lab at the on campus incubator. He also met [[Brian Bland|Brian]], his current best friend, and with whom he's done [[bungy jumping]] and [[indoor skydiving]]. A few years later he left the lab to do freelance graphics again full time. In [[2006#December|December 2006]] he became manager of a customized shoe store in [[Port Jefferson]]. Although he's had a few relationships since college, particularly with Ryan and Josh, he is currently [[single Forumites|single]]. Although he no longer hangs out at [[the Forum]], he has stayed in touch with many of his [[Forumite]] [[friends]], attended [[Sherman Raftenberg day]] and [[I-Con]], been a part of [[GAMYR]] House, and participated in other ways, as well as hanging out with Forumites at [[folk festivals]], [[Drawing the Circle]], etc.
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| =Cherries=
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| Turtle's Forum cherry was popped by his High School best friend [[Matthew Gray]] when he was brought to some [[I-Con]] [[gopher]] meetings in 1987. Turtle has popped the Forum cherries of [[Bubbles]], [[Kevin Chiu]] and [[Brian Bland]].
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| =Quotes=
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| ==Quotes by==
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| * "You can't get kicked out of the outside."
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| * "There's always time for bodily functions."
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| * "I only do blowjobs for sandals." - 6/21/2000 9:00pm
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| * "Yes, my grandmother has lossy compression" - 4/1/2004 8:00pm
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| * "Drinking cow juice prevents you from falling under the control of the master [[vegan]]." - 8/1120/04
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| * (to Karen) "I'm not drunk you are just culturally irrelevant!" - 12/1/2005 11:22pm
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| * "You cant be previous to a future alternative." - 2005
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| * "I cast spells using alphabet soup." - 12/06/2005 4:57pm
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| * "Scared the bebuddha out of her." - 6/28/2003
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| * "Will you put out my invisible fires?" - 8/6/2006
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| * "There were no sub-titular moments." - 8/6/2006
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| * "As my best friend it is your duty to comment on every [[lj]] entry and do the toast at my [[weddings|wedding reception]]." - 3/16/2006 5:50pm
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| * "It's like some kind of homosexual velcro." 10/4/2006 4:40pm
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| * "No, China has more gravity. That's why they eat cats." 10/25/2006
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| * "Yay indeed. Verily it is yay." - 2/4/2007 11:58pm
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| * "A sequipedalian sciolistic parisology and charientism, et hoc genus omne, written during an afflatus, for my kinsfolks’ nosopoetic mundungus."
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| ==Quotes about==
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| * "I've never been with you and found myself thinking 'oh my god get me out of here I'm so bored I wanna stab myself just cuz watching myself bleed would be more fun than this.'" - [[Oz]]
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| * "You have a practical business life, an active involvement in you personal relationships, and you still make time for your hobbies. If anything I would say you give nothing but your level best to everything you commit to. Also, I would point out that your extra-curricular interests are varied as well. You have some tied to health and some tied to the arts. I get the feeling that Burning Man is a bit spiritual without being preachy. Perhaps your title should highlight the fact that you can probably converse with anyone about anything in basic terms and take it from there." - Dreamtree
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| * "You're like a crappy santa claus." - Brian Asciutto 8/13/2004 2:00pm
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| * " I discovered that there are few things in the world (excluding pygmy marmosettes) which are cuter than watching a baby turtle eat lettuce." - Kait O'Sullivan 2005
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| =Super powers and vulnerabilities=
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| ==Super powers==
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| * (1992 only) prescient ability to know where [[Colleen Skadl|Colleen]] and what she was doing
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| * Appear silently and without warning next to or behind people
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| * Read [[Brian Bland|Brian's mind]] (except around water)
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| * Existence is inherently anathema to yes or no questions
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| * Can, without balancing his checkbook, intuitively get bank account close to zero (under 25 cents) but not below
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| * versatile man, champion of a world with blurred lines and multiple perspectives
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| * Irresistible to young foreign born Hispanic guys
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| ==Vulnerabilities==
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| * Has trouble finding holes
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| * Leaky
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| * Incapable of resisting young foreign born Hispanic guys
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| * Irresistibleness to young foreign born Hispanic guys ends after two weeks
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| * Causes all time pieces to destruct in interesting new ways, can only chronologically pinpoint a few events, the rest have all merged into a non linear timeframe
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| ==Skills==
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| * [[Macintosh]] proficient
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| * Graphic design, photoshop, illustrator, indesign, quarkxpress, contexfree, wikicode
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| * Can wiggle both ears and eyebrows all independently, hang upside down
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| * Drive stick
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| * [[English]], some [[Spanish]], mostly forgotten [[Latin]] and [[Drac]]
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| * Color pencils, watercolors, pencil, acrylic, pen and ink
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| * [[Body painting]], henna
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| * Professional [[slacking]] (don't try this at home folks)
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| =Favorites=
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| TBA
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| =Care and feeding=
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| Although Turtle is not a strict [[vegetarian]], he loves well made [[vegan]] or vegetarian or raw food and blended fruit drinks. He thrives on a dynamic mixture of professional [[slacking]] and sleep, and adventurous travel and [[extreme sports]]. He loves the color green. He likes soak in the water and then bask in the sun with his fellow [[Testudines]].
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| =Codes=
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| Turtle doesn't know his geek code or other codes yet.
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| =Links=
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| * Homepage (not yet transferred from old domain) [http://www.memesmith.com/]
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| * Turtle's Tshirt designs for sale including one with the [[SF4M logo]] I designed [www.shirtsamok.com/mainframe.html]
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| * Some of Turtle's [[poetry]] and [[writing]] [http://www.memesmith.com/poems/poemindex.html]
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| * Pictures of Turtle in body paint at Burning Man. [http://supersnail.com/bman/set5/120/2index.html] and (warning:nudity) [http://supersnail.com/bman/set5/120_2/2index.html]
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| * Pictures of Turtle with a mohawk [http://www.shirtsamok.com/jonpix/jackmugs.html]
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| * Pictures of Turtle in santa hat December 2006 [http://www.memesmith.com/jonpix/santahatjon2006.html]
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| * Shoes from Turtle's shoe store [http://www.memesmith.com/livejournalpix/20070116jackshoesL.jpg] Rofftop Studio [http://www.rooftopstudio.com]
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| * Turtle's livejournal [http://jackdavinci.livejournal.com/]
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| =Contact=
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| * Web email jackdavinci at gmail dot com
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| * AOL IM taodavinci
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| * Email or IM for phone
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